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Philips crazy Ski Slope Cassette Deck

As unusual cassette decks go - the 1970s Philips changers are some of the oddest.
00:00 Intro
04:18 The ‘Repair’
26:05 First Demo
30:13 Prices & History
32:38 More Demo
36:39 Wrap Up
38:22 Credits
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Bi-colour Tapes from www.tapeline.info
EXTRA INFO
It’s very likely one reason the tapes didn’t always locate perfectly in the mechanism is because I was using short custom-wound tapes. As these have less tape inside...they will also have less weight than the average C90. When I ordered them I had no idea the tolerances in the machine would be so fine with regard to tape weight. My intention was to use the short lengths to demonstrate the continuous tape recycling feature activated by the tape end sensor...without having to wait for a full length tape to reach the end. In addition most new cassette shells are a bit rougher and more angular than ones from back in the 1970s - they'd be more smoothed off with rounder edges, and as a result they'd be far less likely to get caught up against the sides of the cassette well.

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  1. Julian

    Julian

    14 minuten geleden

    This is wayy too cool to be this old.. Great Video!

  2. Heistergand

    Heistergand

    15 minuten geleden

    This was a very good and interesting documentary. I really enjoyed watching it. Well done!

  3. HillOrStream

    HillOrStream

    18 minuten geleden

    Ampex had one fairly similar to this one from the same age. I almost bought one, already used and broken even way back then. don't know if it could do the flip trick or not. May have been the same mechanism even...

  4. guguselas

    guguselas

    23 minuten geleden

    Wheee! 😃🤭🤗

  5. TheProGamerHW

    TheProGamerHW

    45 minuten geleden

    About the old belts being fine - my grandpa gave me an early 1960s Sony TC-900 reel-to-reel (small 3 inch) recorder, it was never maintained and last year, when I took it apart because the mike input was oxidized (pitch black contacts), the belts were still in good shape. He also gave me a Dual turntable with the original invoice from 1974 and it's still going strong, never been lubricated during his course of ownership. The trick is probably to cover the machine with a rag, which is a practice older people used to do, therefore dust and other contaminants don't get in. R2R machines and early tape players were built like tanks - all steel, heavy duty belts, giant capacitors, but the downside to that is the very complicated mechanism, those guys are a nightmare to repair, it usually took me many days, but I never gave up and all of those 60s/70s devices under my bed are working now.

  6. Christian Henderson

    Christian Henderson

    49 minuten geleden

    Without a doubt, this has got to to be the most complicated cassette playback device ever devised. This is engineers having fun, sitting around a table, taking a shot each time someone comes up with a more complicated way of doing something.

  7. Eclectik tronik

    Eclectik tronik

    53 minuten geleden

    Incidentally, the low audio volume you have is almost certainly the germanium transistors in the amp. These develop an internal leak to the metal case. If you are curious, as a temporary test you can loosen them from the heatsink and test, you may well have full volume restored. These transistors can be hard to find but a workaround is to give each one an isolated heatsink if space permits.

  8. Just Jordan

    Just Jordan

    Uur geleden

    30:23 the single Caset one on the right is what I had as a kid from my Dad. :) Really good model still works I believe. It was really hard finding belts for it 20 years ago.

  9. Tussengassed

    Tussengassed

    Uur geleden

    32:24 the Dutch sign says: Cassettechanger for 6 cassettes. After feeding back, the other side will also be played. So you where right about the 6 cassette, weird that they show it with 7 cassetes in the pictures.

  10. Eclectik tronik

    Eclectik tronik

    Uur geleden

    I revived a N2408 about seven years ago (though I do not have the ski slope attachment!) Much of the tribulations you went through were painfully familiar! Here's the video of my experience. nlcameras.info/wiki/o3fKgKGglnunxJg/video

  11. Iris

    Iris

    Uur geleden

    When I open up old electronics that has belts or anything and they do not appear to have been changed my brother and I always joke that they probably contain all kinds of toxic stuff not allowed to be used anymore today and it's the toxic stuff that kept it good :P.

  12. acadiel

    acadiel

    Uur geleden

    Wow, never knew they had these. Thanks for sharing!

  13. Daz555

    Daz555

    Uur geleden

    Crazy that flipping the tape seemed like a better solution than reversing the tape and having a second head.

  14. freedustin

    freedustin

    Uur geleden

    Oooh 9 hours of music? Nice try 70's. My Winamp playlist is like 24 days long.

  15. Andy T

    Andy T

    2 uur geleden

    My parents had one of these in the pub I grew up in during the 70s. Worked problem free.

  16. Fred Davis

    Fred Davis

    2 uur geleden

    I could swear I saw a Techmoan video with a somewhat similar mechanism but it "shot" the cassettes out and used top corner of the slope to flip the tapes. I can't find it now though... I'm sure I didn't imagine this. My description probably sucks, but if anyone has any ideas what I'm talking about I'd love to see this video again.

  17. Robert Ulph

    Robert Ulph

    2 uur geleden

    That is so call never seen one before

  18. Liberty Central

    Liberty Central

    2 uur geleden

    Those cassettes sliding up and down is quite satisfying.

  19. Sprinkly Gloom

    Sprinkly Gloom

    2 uur geleden

    Attention everyone, Have you heard of snap circuits? I requested Techmoan to do a review about this product line from the electrical education company Elenco. I thought it's a topic he'll like. I also hope Tech greenlights this.

  20. brickonator

    brickonator

    2 uur geleden

    Maybe I'm silly, but when I saw that ad for this tape player in your original video, I assumed it was showing a tape being *fired* up the ramp at high speeds. I didn't think it was actually 6 tapes at different points on the ramp.

  21. chrysalis

    chrysalis

    3 uur geleden

    But why didn’t they go all the way making such a complicated mechanism instead of a motor that goes both directions?

  22. Pekka Grönfors

    Pekka Grönfors

    3 uur geleden

    Amazing video

  23. kevan hubbard

    kevan hubbard

    3 uur geleden

    Philips and Phillips a bit like the confusion between Branson and Branston.One a sauce and the other an oligarch who may or may not put Branston Sauce on his food.

  24. David Wright

    David Wright

    3 uur geleden

    That's one of the most unique tape decks I've seen yet. I

  25. G Cairns

    G Cairns

    3 uur geleden

    How did I miss this gem at the time it came out?

  26. BlameThande

    BlameThande

    3 uur geleden

    I get the impression this was designed by someone who was used to record changers working through a stack, and didn't think of flipping the head or spinning the tape directly because that idea wouldn't apply to records so hadn't been thought of yet. Funny how cassettes are such a long-lasting medium so we see generations of different attitudes applied to how to play them, while the tapes themselves stayed basically the same.

  27. dansw0rkshop

    dansw0rkshop

    3 uur geleden

    I wonder how much the drug craze having just started in this era had anything to do with strange designs like this. Designers definitely not thinking clearly.

  28. macgvrs

    macgvrs

    4 uur geleden

    You are pretty good at getting these old devices working. I hope you will find this helpful. I recommend getting real spring hooks, both a pusher and a puller. It makes much it easier when dealing with springs and drive belts, and other things. They aren't expensive and work much better than something you make yourself. I know since I tried to get along with out them for a long time using whatever I could cobble together.

  29. svenkraker

    svenkraker

    4 uur geleden

    great video and love the commentary!

  30. F e r m i n Romero de Torres

    F e r m i n Romero de Torres

    4 uur geleden

    Amazinger !! Never saw one of this !!

  31. סבתא רבא

    סבתא רבא

    4 uur geleden

    The 70s was really the era of mechanical engineering, it's a great achievement to get everything to work, very interesting.

  32. The Paper

    The Paper

    4 uur geleden

    If someone could re-release this model can you imagine how amazing. I'd totally use it.

  33. Defence Bangladesh

    Defence Bangladesh

    4 uur geleden

    Got the notification after 4 days 😔

  34. Phil Nolan

    Phil Nolan

    5 uur geleden

    When I first started watching this I imagined putting one tape in, the tape ends, then gets catapulted through the "ski slope" to flip it over to play the other side.

  35. Patrick Johnson

    Patrick Johnson

    5 uur geleden

    I grew up in the cassette recorder era and never knew cassette changers of any kind existed. I was happy enough with a double cassette recorder that would play the cassette in deck B after the cassette in deck A had finished.

  36. brewsnoop

    brewsnoop

    5 uur geleden

    Very well done! Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s, this stuff brings me back to my childhood when cassette tapes seemed like magic when compared to vinyl records. Thank-you for taking the time to record, edit and post your video.

  37. Leah C

    Leah C

    5 uur geleden

    I can't believe I just watched this all the way through lol Really nice example of hardware engineering though :)

  38. S M

    S M

    5 uur geleden

    28:27

  39. Leo Capaldi

    Leo Capaldi

    5 uur geleden

    The Holy Grale of cassette decks ! Have only ever seen one - in a pub in Edinburgh in the 70's. Asked the barman to start it playing but it was broken :-(

  40. NFSHeld

    NFSHeld

    5 uur geleden

    And nowaways you'd just have two different read heads (if this mechanism was of any relevance in the customer space anymore).

  41. Charlie Angkor

    Charlie Angkor

    5 uur geleden

    I find it unbearably mentally painful to watch the repair

  42. H. Nguyen

    H. Nguyen

    6 uur geleden

    Whenever you say Norelco in America people think of Philipps mens shaving line. I had no idea they used the same name for audio equipment.

  43. RocKITEman _ 2001

    RocKITEman _ 2001

    7 uur geleden

    _Rube Goldberg_ would be proud...😉

  44. Thomas

    Thomas

    7 uur geleden

    I love this translucent smoky acrylic, it has this high quality futuristic feel to it.

  45. Andy Linton

    Andy Linton

    7 uur geleden

    Superb! I'm always amazed at how these type of electro-mechanical machines were designed, in pre-CAD days. Must have been fun working in the R&D departments - did they just mock up mechanisms by bending bits of metal and springs until it worked?

  46. Mike Lambert

    Mike Lambert

    8 uur geleden

    Off topic - where have all the old Techmoan videos gone????

  47. jimmy hughes

    jimmy hughes

    8 uur geleden

    i kind of get the feeling this was not designed initially for domestic consumers, i feel like the first iteration had a more functional auto-record mechanism instead of that epic fail anti-record mechanism

  48. philip bender

    philip bender

    9 uur geleden

    This player is very cool. It's funny how this was considered "electronics" when it is mostly all mechanical. Fascinating to see though.

  49. HazewinDog

    HazewinDog

    9 uur geleden

    what a super basic concept and (by our modern standards) a super complex way to go about it! I love it :) what a cool device (until you need to work on it of course...)

  50. Andrea V

    Andrea V

    9 uur geleden

    A prime example of where people keep adding band aid solutions rather than going back to the drawing board and starting from scratch.

  51. TDCatTech

    TDCatTech

    9 uur geleden

    I would have thrown this across the room. Your patience in these repairs is appreciated.

  52. Justin Dawson

    Justin Dawson

    9 uur geleden

    This really makes me appreciate my Sony cassette deck that still does what it was made to do

  53. tinblue

    tinblue

    9 uur geleden

    It boggles my mind the people who designed these things. Not only that but they had to come up with a manufacturing process to assemble them.

  54. Dakkaron

    Dakkaron

    9 uur geleden

    Am I the only one who thought it would catapult single tapes up the ramp at high speed?

  55. CameramanStuart

    CameramanStuart

    10 uur geleden

    So much joy watching it finally working!! Thanks Mat! Yep are indeed, the Man!

  56. C Wit

    C Wit

    10 uur geleden

    Top content! I like these kinds of mechanisms, good job you got it going again.

  57. Markus Bensinger

    Markus Bensinger

    10 uur geleden

    70s Technical Overkill .....

  58. krashdown102

    krashdown102

    10 uur geleden

    i think my Dad used to have one of these. In early 90s when i saw it (i was about 5) i remember finding the skijump thing one time and wondered what it was for and why Dad had kept this piece of junk, little did i know that it was so expensive.

  59. bob

    bob

    10 uur geleden

    When he opened the service manual: 🤯

  60. PAULIE FPV

    PAULIE FPV

    11 uur geleden

    😁 great stuff they dont make them like they used too...maybe a good job ehh 😉

  61. SoundLogik

    SoundLogik

    11 uur geleden

    I've got a Panasonic hifi VHS player and can make 8 hour mix tapes if set to long play. The sound quality is better than CD. It's the dream!

  62. John Hodgetts

    John Hodgetts

    13 uur geleden

    I used to own the N2506 DNL (dynamic noise limiter) cassette deck pictured at 31:28. It was my uncle's before me and he gave it me when he bought one of those new fangled all-in-one music centres (just before everyone changed their minds yet again and decided having separates was better after all!) When it inevitibly went wrong, I took it apart and couldn't believe how vastly over-engineered it was. For example, see that recording level slider on the right of the unit? If you think it's a fader, think again. The slider moved along a greased cylinder with a spiral cut in it (looking something like a barber's pole) at the end of which was a standard rotary potentiometer. I think Philips engineers must have been paid by the number of components they could use in their designs!

  63. mark goldspink

    mark goldspink

    13 uur geleden

    Cassette counter? Shame, I was just hoping for a random timer that just counted upwards by second.

  64. dyrball

    dyrball

    14 uur geleden

    That is so neat

  65. Wahoo RICE COOKR

    Wahoo RICE COOKR

    14 uur geleden

    Absolutely amazing machine!

  66. Savannah O'Neill

    Savannah O'Neill

    14 uur geleden

    Interesting...

  67. DKC

    DKC

    15 uur geleden

    Ъ

  68. Lawrence Cavens

    Lawrence Cavens

    15 uur geleden

    Speaking of loudness it's a capacitor problem in the amplifier, I bet if you re-cap the unit it would be great again and in full working order. By the way where do you get old good equipment like that- like what is the site name , as always you're a great credit to show awesome equipment that time has forgotten - the next generation will appreciate what they missed of what we grew up with in the 70s and 80s, like the kids react channel here on you tube

  69. Ragnarok

    Ragnarok

    15 uur geleden

    Just rediscovering all my subs after a ban. Haven't seen you in a while, love the beard!

  70. Petko Bordjukov

    Petko Bordjukov

    16 uur geleden

    Hey @Techmoan, have you considered sending this to Mr. Carlson's Lab for a complete repair? :)

  71. David Talon

    David Talon

    16 uur geleden

    Funny looking thing ! congrats Techmoan to make it work, from the dead.

  72. ITX Official

    ITX Official

    16 uur geleden

    1:06 No Mr. Techmoan, I will *never* skip to a certain part of your videos! Real fans watch from the beginning till the end. :)

  73. tstuff

    tstuff

    16 uur geleden

    Interesting, I never knew I needed a cassette player that could hold six tapes but now I know they were made and I need one. And to think the double cassette players with auto reverse were that big thing when I was younger. Did other companies ever make players that held more than two cassettes at a time?

  74. Martin Lintzgy

    Martin Lintzgy

    17 uur geleden

    I used to have one of these things. Exactly the same issues as Matt has here. Very tempremental and inconvenient.

  75. RabidTribble

    RabidTribble

    17 uur geleden

    Imagine dropping this. The sheer number of parts knocked loose… jeez lol Edit: GOOD LORD that user manual. Looks like the schematics in the movie Contact! Lmao

  76. Skraeling1000

    Skraeling1000

    17 uur geleden

    I have visions of the design team brainstorming this concept during a long booze session at the pub. I mean, no sober designer could imagine this, surely??

  77. moofymoo

    moofymoo

    18 uur geleden

    31:58 - but, but, now I kinda want I have the problem this machine solves and own this ski-slope player!

  78. brycen swint

    brycen swint

    19 uur geleden

    theres an unspoken rule of youtube. if they say you can skip to the end you dont.

  79. TheJunkman1961

    TheJunkman1961

    19 uur geleden

    You do some of the most interesting, most fun videos on NLcameras. Great stuff !

  80. Kevin Crisantemi

    Kevin Crisantemi

    19 uur geleden

    They should have sold empty cassettes that didn't turn so that the machine would eject them so you can play both sides of a single music cassette faster.

  81. Kyley Woyote

    Kyley Woyote

    19 uur geleden

    Mate a lot of people DEFINITELY want that much music at their party, for a lot of characters having a continually playing big variety of fresh music is a drawing point to a party.

  82. stéfan hoïmes

    stéfan hoïmes

    19 uur geleden

    24:30 is it possible that when someone potentially tried to repair it they put it in upside down?

  83. Matthew Kane

    Matthew Kane

    20 uur geleden

    Oh I need one of those for the boot of my car

  84. Bill Karver

    Bill Karver

    20 uur geleden

    make no mistake about it, this man is a brilliant surgeon

  85. Enles Freedom

    Enles Freedom

    20 uur geleden

    What has my life become . I’m watching a tape player get fixed and I wasn’t even alive when that dam thing was made

  86. All Things M3

    All Things M3

    20 uur geleden

    That’s a complicated tape player. The designer wasn’t thinking about service.

  87. ACDCnLedZeppelin

    ACDCnLedZeppelin

    21 uur geleden

    Matt you are so humble with your repair skills I would have gotten nowhere unlike you.

  88. Alpha Woolf

    Alpha Woolf

    21 uur geleden

    I just wanted to add, this video was beautiful the same way your video about the Panasonic RS-296US was. The movement was mesmerizing.

  89. Ideoform Sun

    Ideoform Sun

    21 uur geleden

    The cassettes with real tape in them would naturally be heavier and drop down more forcefully.

  90. Jordan Tomblin

    Jordan Tomblin

    21 uur geleden

    They essentially went the same route as record changers of the time. Had four track tape heads been around at the time for cassette players, this would have been excellent with a little bit more time and effort put into it.

  91. Jason Owen

    Jason Owen

    21 uur geleden

    Amazing

  92. Fozzy TheFlyingMuppet

    Fozzy TheFlyingMuppet

    22 uur geleden

    I really enjoyed this video. What an era that was; innovative daring Dutch designs with large service manuals in....Dutch. And the thought that the device I watched it on can play hours of music without the need for strings and rubber bands ;-).

  93. VictoriaWood (as seen on TV)

    VictoriaWood (as seen on TV)

    22 uur geleden

    Terrifyingly complicated internals Some absolute comedy gold here

  94. Daniel Collins

    Daniel Collins

    22 uur geleden

    Pretty sure my Dad still has 2 of these + a Philips gold laser disc TV from the 70's in his loft.

  95. Richard cranium

    Richard cranium

    22 uur geleden

    *Thanks for the video, very enjoyable.* (Ur hard work is much appreciated.) "🤷🏻‍♂️...Just a tinkerer" _as far as tinkerer's go sir, you ain't half bad._ 👍

  96. Daniel Labra

    Daniel Labra

    22 uur geleden

    It's incredible... the idea and its design are so idiotic that became brilliant

  97. Jorge Carrillo

    Jorge Carrillo

    23 uur geleden

    30:24 Those speakers look absolutelly beautiful to me, I'd love to have sometghing like that in my room to play music.

  98. ziggyzedly

    ziggyzedly

    23 uur geleden

    Being a first time viewer, I was looking forward to watching this video, but it was hard with all the constant negativity and complaining about working on this, it will be the last.

  99. Howard Rubin

    Howard Rubin

    23 uur geleden

    I had the Norelco branded machine (that you mentioned) in my pinball & foosball arcade in Boulder Colorado USA during the mid 70s. It worked perfectly for many hours a day, including the ski slope changer. This really took me back. Thanks!

  100. Sam Johnson

    Sam Johnson

    23 uur geleden

    Is it possible that fully loaded (long play) tapes would have worked better due to their weight of full spools? Those metal tapes were noticeably heavier than the cheaper tapes. Or so I've heard. lol

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