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The lamps you're not allowed to have. Exploring the Dubai lamps

These fascinating lamps are a result of a collaboration between Philips Lighting and Sheikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum - the ruler of Dubai.
They are designed to be the most efficient available, matching high lumen output with very long life. Once you see the construction and circuitry you'll realise this isn't just marketing spin.
In return for the development Philips gained exclusive rights to manufacture the lamps for a fixed duration, extending from their announcement in 2016. Philips expect to have supplied 10 million of the lamps by the end of 2021.
There is a requirement for new installations to use the new lamp, which has upset some designers and architects, as they are only available in 8 forms. 3W and 2W globes, a 1W candle globe and a 3W MR16 12V downlight version. All four available in either cool daylight or warm white to make up the eight options. This restricts the style of the lamp shape and excludes warmer whites unless coloured by a shade. They're also not dimmable, which contributes greatly to their reliability, but does require a more open minded approach to lighting design.
The range also excludes the GU10 format, which isn't a bad thing as they're probably one of the least reliable lamps due to the use of electronics in a confined space with hot LEDs.
These lamps are currently only available in Dubai. The likelihood of them appearing elsewhere is limited by the fact that they are designed to last a long time, which isn't profitable for the manufacturers. Maybe that'll change over time.
Although Philips have initial exclusivity of supply, it'll be interesting to see what happens when that period of time comes to an end. Will the other manufacturers make the same amount of effort as Philips did?
Slight correction. The two MOSFET gate resistors are actually 4.7Mohm and not 470K, which makes sense for gate voltage protection.
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  1. og80085

    og80085

    Uur geleden

    You were close, but his names actually pronounced “Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum” ;)

  2. DM AV

    DM AV

    2 uur geleden

    Interesting. The packaging said they were dimmable. I wonder if that explains some of the circuitry…in any case, very interesting video; thank you!

  3. Miles Thomas

    Miles Thomas

    2 uur geleden

    I think this could be a useful topic for a UK parliamentary petition, to request that long life/underrated (extra LEDs) lamps become mandated for LED bulbs of certain shapes in the UK. Just need to find the time to write the petition in suitably clear language to ensure the petition is a) not rejected and b) attractive enough for people to sign it. Maybe also change.org. Unless someone else wants to volunteer to start drafting such a thing (leave a comment below, maybe a link to a shared document)

  4. Akshay Anand

    Akshay Anand

    5 uur geleden

    Why are there 2 Zeners in parallel?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      3 uur geleden

      Possibly enhanced power dissipation or double redundancy.

  5. Akshay Anand

    Akshay Anand

    5 uur geleden

    They should make the glass and metal construction much more modular since they don't have to tolerate much heat... I would love to have repairable light bulbs lol.

  6. FoolWise

    FoolWise

    5 uur geleden

    Clicked on this video expecting it to be tedious - ended up fascinated and learning a lot! Thanks for making!

  7. Police Dog

    Police Dog

    6 uur geleden

    Wow almost 5,000 comments so you won't see this but can't this type of bulb be tapped (either via RF or at the neutral to ground connection) to cause the LED array to act as a quite effective audio microphone? In other words with the right kit one could listen to everything said in the room where this type of bulb is operating, using the bulb itself as the listening device?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      3 uur geleden

      I very much doubt it. It would be much easier to use a laser-bounce window listener. Or indeed just Alexa.

  8. Sounak Das

    Sounak Das

    8 uur geleden

    Philips😎 led is best💯👍

  9. Lawrence Allwright

    Lawrence Allwright

    8 uur geleden

    So if you don't force-work your components at (or just over) their maximum capacity, they last longer? Well. Who'd have thought that?!?!

  10. Termiic

    Termiic

    8 uur geleden

    Now THIS is the correct design from electrical engineering point of view. But the suckers don't make or sell lamps like that in european union, too.

  11. Millennial Bear

    Millennial Bear

    9 uur geleden

    Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “NLcameras is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “NLcameras is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “NLcameras is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series” “Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “NLcameras is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “NLcameras is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “NLcameras is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series”

  12. bumboclat

    bumboclat

    9 uur geleden

    Huh so I just watched half an hour of technical details without getting an answer in why we are not allowed to have them. meh

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 uur geleden

      It's basically so you have to keep buying short lived lamps.

  13. Rhine River Surf

    Rhine River Surf

    10 uur geleden

    Only CRI 80 ??? Totally useless

  14. IbRidO

    IbRidO

    12 uur geleden

    I live in switzerland and these bulbs have been everywhere for at least 1 year, I have two 40w from osram same as these ones from Philips

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 uur geleden

      You have the 1W per filament type. They are common.

  15. Rick S

    Rick S

    13 uur geleden

    No one sells those style of bulb here ...

  16. UltraAlex2000

    UltraAlex2000

    15 uur geleden

    Like many people that stumbled upon your video, I never thought I would sit for half an hour listening to a man talking about light bulbs... well I was wrong, you sir are absolutely amazing.

  17. John Wick

    John Wick

    16 uur geleden

    Where to buy?

    • John Wick

      John Wick

      14 uur geleden

      @bigclivedotcom why not on Amazon world wide? What's the advantage of this Lights?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      16 uur geleden

      Dubai.

  18. Dude Man

    Dude Man

    20 uur geleden

    Interesting subject matter presented TERRIBLY. DISJOINTED ADD DISORGANIZED VIDEO...... has NO direction and just jumps all over NEVER making ANY clear points

  19. EvroNetwork

    EvroNetwork

    20 uur geleden

    Damn I'd love to get a few of them - If you live in dubai contact me? hahah I'd love to get 2-3 of them to test them :D

  20. Change Agent

    Change Agent

    22 uur geleden

    Back in 2016 CREE announced they had beaten the 300 lumens per watt efficiency mark for a single 1 watt LED. Ever since I have periodically emailed them about availability and they never have them for sale. They said it was just a lab proof of concept and it's not an actual product and they have no plans to produce it. I sure would like some. Seems a bit mean to announce it though if they are not going to prove they can do it with a product.

  21. Simply Wonderful

    Simply Wonderful

    Dag geleden

    What's the lumen output of the Dubai lamps?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      Dag geleden

      200 lumens per watt.

  22. Bill Keith Channel

    Bill Keith Channel

    Dag geleden

    The 88¢ led bulbs at Walmart are still a much better deal.

  23. Winter Star

    Winter Star

    Dag geleden

    Architects can use restrictive lamp choices more creatively...but that requires they think more creatively. Lasting too long, & being too efficient.....THOSE are the real issues here. ANY product that used to last a long time, has been replaced by all the whiz bang shines high-tech...land more costly to operate & buy...digital electronics. Or replaced by chemicalized analogues that fool the senses, but cannot fool biological processes. I’ve talked with Utility Reps who literally said: “Consumers have gotten too good at saving energy, using all the newer bulbs, to the point Utility companies cannot pay their bills.” Clarification of that disclosed that the big energy trading companies, like BPA (Bonneville Power Assoc.) have systematically goaded judges to force all the utility companies to help repay a terrible energy debacle where BPA lost something like Trillion$ in a badly managed trade, in the 1990’s....only, it will never be repaid, because it was so huge...all the utilities can do is “tread water”. So, when consumers use markedly less energy, the utilities cannot make the payments to BPA. ...lSo, when compact fluorescent (CFL’s) came to market, those had to be wired so they worked ok, but, fudged on energy savings that could have been better, in order to avoid everyone saving too much...that was paired with pricetags being set high, to slow shoppers from buying them too much, too fast. ...When LED bulbs came out, a similar process was used: initial bulbs were not reliable. They were wired to use more energy than they otherwise would, & priced high...all that throttles conversion to using better tech like LEDs. Believe it or don’t, but LEDs have been around for a very long time...it’s only been about 20 years or so, though, since big industries have allowed them to be more widely used..that took almost 50 years or so. It serves big industries, & it serves utility companies, to throttle energy efficiency, limit use-life, keep prices up, & preserve energy profiteering by centralized utilities. Similar is done with the “Energy Star” label. Especially in heating & cooling hardware & software. And, it’s what’s gone terribly, unethically wrong with the electronics industries, especially phones & computers. All designed to be not so energy efficient, not so durable, & higher priced...on purpose. Fridge makers commonly have been doing what’s called “bench-testing” of the working guts of a fridge, to measure it to see where it matches an energy star requirement. Check. Then install those into a bigger boxes..... But those things often use More energy, not less...almost the only way to chill a box with less energy, is to use far more insulation in the box. But makers refuse to change the boxes’ wall thickness, saying, “if we make fridge walls thicker, the units won’t fit most kitchen cabinetry, so buyers won’t buy”. Get it?? Makers won’t make what buyers won’t buy. That is key to industries profiteering, & much of their malfeasance. It is also one of the more effective ways consumers can fight back to get what we want: far better energy efficiency & durability. As long as consumers keep sucker-baiting for bad products just because they look nice, we lose, our posterity loses. Heatpump minisplit makers & sellers routinely tell consumers their systems can save about 50% off their utility bills....but FAIL to finish that sentence.... .....the rest of that should say: ....” for heating or cooling”....because the only part of a utility bill that any HVAC system can affect, is heating & cooling costs...so, about half of those costs. Right now, no heatpump minisplit we’ve seen, to date, is estimated to last longer than about 10 years, & cannot Return on Investment within that time...you will have to buy new units or parts, & a contractor, before you’ve paid off the cost of that appliance....even if you paid cash up-front. The real cost of that system must include the price divided by the 10 year life expectancy divided by 12 months in a year. That answer is: how much you paid for that appliance per month for its 10 year life. Then, look at your heating/cooling costs per month. How do those numbers differ? Check your heating/cooling part of your power bill. Subtract about half of that, as estimated savings per individual month (because it’s different every month). Add 12 monthly savings figures together. That answer shows a more accurate savings figure. Compare the more accurate savings figure, with an annual payment figure for the system. If annual cost of system is bigger than your estimated real world energy savings, you are losing more money than saving. And, they all fail to tell buyers that the federal tax rebates or incentives, can only be gotten by those who have enough income & deductions, to itemize on their taxes. But State & local incentives might still be reachable by them. Also...considering the complexities of modern electronics...we’ve noticed a measurable drop in power bills, since plugging more things into battery boxes recharged from wall sockets. That includes 2 chest freezers on mechanical timers, various desk lamps, computers. Those battery boxes also protect costly electronics from brownouts, flickers & outages more common in grid power now. Surveillance electronics seem able to gather much info if the same gadgets plug to grid power. But when plugged to a battery box system, the digital surveillance system only “sees” a battery recharging, not what’s plugged into it. Which Seems to also bypass whatever circuitry has been put into gadgets that helps them suck more energy... If you really want to save, create your own energy on-site. Heavily insulate (well beyond “industry standards”) your buildings. Include using storm windows frame-mounted with 3” or more air spaced between house windows & storm windows....that works measurably better than common dual-pane windows. Use as many DC appliances, instead of AC appliances, as you can. Do low-tech things to insulate the building better. Take advantage of simple solar & wind, & simple geothermal. Learn how digital electronics has both blessed & cursed everyone. Learn how things work. Be curious! Stop letting big corporations fool you into buying useless trickery at high cost. Refuse to buy junk. Learn what junk really is.

  24. Dave Magnani

    Dave Magnani

    Dag geleden

    Regarding the zero ohm resister you mention at 24:50, I have seen them used in many of the circuits I have analyzed for trouble-shooting. In some, I believe they were just used for bridging over circuit traces. In others, I believe they were used as fuses, such as on some 3.5" hard drives. The location of the zero ohm resistor in the circuit of this LED lamp leads me to believe it may be serving as a fuse, being at the output of the bridge rectifier.

  25. William

    William

    Dag geleden

    Me an american be like wheres the lamp thats just a bulb

  26. Rudy Plays

    Rudy Plays

    Dag geleden

    Imagine holding back on technology that is more efficient because money.

  27. Mark Andrews

    Mark Andrews

    Dag geleden

    Bad idea using 12v M16, It’s much easier to change a lamp than a transformer.

    • Mark Andrews

      Mark Andrews

      Dag geleden

      Plus the cost, transformers cost money and needs a skilled person to change. Access causes Damage to ceilings and paintwork transformers are the dumbest least cost effective idea ever in domestic installations.

    • Mark Andrews

      Mark Andrews

      Dag geleden

      @bigclivedotcom I’m an electrician, it’s still bad idea transformers are hidden in ceilings lamps are not

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      Dag geleden

      In this case the 12V power supply can be mounted away from the source of heat. GU10 lamps really bake their electronics.

  28. commalTl

    commalTl

    Dag geleden

    LEDs are terrible for you and your brain fk em

  29. Marc Gyver

    Marc Gyver

    Dag geleden

    Maybe in YOUR country, but here in the US, we definitely have them.

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      Dag geleden

      You have the 1W per filament type. Not these ones.

  30. dhill4001

    dhill4001

    Dag geleden

    Can we make our own? Buy 2 and transfer all LEDs to one base working in parallel?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      Dag geleden

      It's easier than that. I'll be releasing a video about it soon.

  31. Rolf itssogood

    Rolf itssogood

    Dag geleden

    imagine designing a reliable, non hackable and speed-gaming labtop with no noise. Do it and we will talk again

    • Google User

      Google User

      7 uur geleden

      What?? What does this have to do with anything? Also you can buy laptops that cool only passively but their performance is lacking. We don't have the technology yet to make "gaming" CPUs and GPUs that can be cooled only passively. Low power chips are getting better and better Laptops do exist that are cooled only passively but one wouldn't call them gaming machines, even if they probably would run some older/lighter games like Half Life 2 or Minecraft

  32. Scott Debruyn

    Scott Debruyn

    Dag geleden

    Interesting! I worked with a fellow designer on building some fishing vessel deck flood lights and we disagreed on what current to run the LED's. He wanted to run then, like many manufacturers near there max continuous rating, meaning it necessitated the careful design of heatsinking. I wanted to add a couple more LED's and run them all at half the power for the same light output. As it was his project and eventual product, he went his way and to this day runs into LED failures. I've had others ask me and I always recommend running about half power and 80-90% of the rated light output for all the obvious reasons... Spend more for more LED's or spend more on getting rid of the heat, more on regulating the current and more on replacing LED's more often. Seems like a no-brainer to me. AND it's obvious why Philips does what they do outside of Dubai... They sell more.

  33. Ben van Broekhuijsen

    Ben van Broekhuijsen

    Dag geleden

    oooh that calculator.... :D

  34. chanhien

    chanhien

    Dag geleden

    governments supporting planned obsolescence, I don't really know what to say.

  35. Bzik71

    Bzik71

    Dag geleden

    Which lamps are close to these in efficiency?

  36. Elizabeth Walters

    Elizabeth Walters

    Dag geleden

    This is fascinating. Really liked this video. I live in Abu Dhabi but I don't think we even have these here. However, if you want to buy you can get on Amazon.ae

  37. alpha gamers clan

    alpha gamers clan

    Dag geleden

    weird they are for sale here

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      Dag geleden

      You have the 1W per filament type. Not these ones.

  38. Franklin Blunt

    Franklin Blunt

    Dag geleden

    That's an Edison bulb replica?

  39. Jaxium

    Jaxium

    Dag geleden

    *The enforcers of Phillips wish to know your location*

  40. Buzz Buzzby

    Buzz Buzzby

    Dag geleden

    Are you the uk version of ave?

    • Buzz Buzzby

      Buzz Buzzby

      Dag geleden

      @bigclivedotcom youtube finally recommend me a good video

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      Dag geleden

      Yes I am. The elekchicken version.

  41. Terd Ferguson

    Terd Ferguson

    2 dagen geleden

    They do this with a lot of things because burning fossil fuels creates jobs.

  42. WHAT WABBIT HO

    WHAT WABBIT HO

    2 dagen geleden

    Some how i can't stop thinking that we are being taken for a ride like usual here in the western world! .......Damn Globalist!

  43. appelelle

    appelelle

    2 dagen geleden

    I really love the big cutouts lol

  44. Wouter ke

    Wouter ke

    2 dagen geleden

    The more filaments the lesser it looks like a point light, softer to the eye.

  45. MaverickBlue

    MaverickBlue

    2 dagen geleden

    In Electroboom: FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER

  46. audiogarden21

    audiogarden21

    2 dagen geleden

    It suddenly dawned on me that you have a bit of a Scott Manley tone to your voice. =D

  47. MrMoggyman

    MrMoggyman

    2 dagen geleden

    It is called in built obsolescence. No lamp manufacturer wants to manufacture a lamp that will last forever. That is the best way to go out of business. Only because Philips had a specialised order, they manufactured some. But for the rest of us.......they want to continue selling the old ones. It is the same with washing machines. They last on average 10 years, and then they are done both mechanically and electrically. Same with computers. In built obsolescence. It has to die so that they can sell you a new one and keep in business.

  48. Abdullah Alrasheed

    Abdullah Alrasheed

    2 dagen geleden

    People seem not to understand some basic concepts about profitability and longevity of business, these giant corporations (including big pharma) can manufacture some high quality shit that lasts longer, but they intentionally choose not to do so. The only way they improve their product quality is by forcing them to do so by a competitor, as if they don't do so they will be out of business. The example in this video is a textbook example of that, why would Philips supply higher quality lamps to markets they dominate? It's in their best interest that the lamp breaks in a shorter period, so that you remain dependent on them. Once a competitor starts supplying the same lamp category with higher quality, you will then see Philips increasing its quality. It's ridiculously simple!

  49. David Spector

    David Spector

    2 dagen geleden

    Fascinating examples of underrunning LEDs to realize their cost savings, and with current-limiting to keep the light output steady. I'm concerned that such LEDs are coated with yellow pigment, because this suggests that they are generating blue or violet light, giving a unnatural generated light color with a peak in the yellow and a peak in the blue instead of the natural smooth spectrum of black-body visible radiation. I think there are health benefits to using at least three colors in the phosphor mixture (and preferably more), with no coating, not just in eliminating old-fashioned fluorescent flicker.

    • David Spector

      David Spector

      2 dagen geleden

      @bigclivedotcom I'm unsure of what you mean by a 'linear spectrum'. As you know, the blackbody radiation curve is not linear. And why would a good mixture of red/blue/green compromise efficiency? Yellow/blue "white" phosphors are simply cheaper right now, isn't that correct?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      The yellow phosphor is actually a blend of phosphors producing a more linear spectrum. But getting a perfect colour rendering index does involve compromising efficiency.

  50. Marius Riauka

    Marius Riauka

    2 dagen geleden

    i can't get; what unique is there? 1, 2, 3 w COB or just COB lamp in E27 ?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      High number of filaments per watt for efficiency and longevity.

  51. Phil Osophy

    Phil Osophy

    2 dagen geleden

    Nobody cares about the pronunciation.

  52. Phil Osophy

    Phil Osophy

    2 dagen geleden

    Less hands in the view please. Its very annoying.

  53. Geo HVL

    Geo HVL

    2 dagen geleden

    This is an ingenious design.

    • Geo HVL

      Geo HVL

      2 dagen geleden

      I have worked in the electronics field for almost 50 years and have never seen this design layout.

  54. Geo HVL

    Geo HVL

    2 dagen geleden

    Now that the US has a dictator I'm sure we will be having the same problems very soon.

  55. Chris Micha

    Chris Micha

    2 dagen geleden

    I had one and it broke

  56. tom ruth

    tom ruth

    2 dagen geleden

    In California, the new Building Standards requirements, only allow bulbs over 90 CRI and a minimum of 10% dimming. This would explain why these bulbs will never be sold here in California.

  57. Gacheru Mburu

    Gacheru Mburu

    2 dagen geleden

    👍

  58. David Taylor

    David Taylor

    2 dagen geleden

    These sound awesome! But I think the REAL reason you can't get these is through Planned Obsolescence/Contrived Durability. Philips doesn't want a bulb to last longer, what's in it for them? You buy it once and never have to replace it? Bad business move financially. And you're not going to get 15,000 hours out of the it, like he says in the video, highly doubt it. Design it to last 2 years, die, buy another one. Cha-ching!

  59. emeldahay

    emeldahay

    2 dagen geleden

    The reason they asked for longer life bulbs? Access to replace dead bulbs - Dubai isnt known for its LOW CEILINGS.

  60. Marc Vette

    Marc Vette

    2 dagen geleden

    Loved this video! FYI - You pay to replace them often, or you pay for them to last. Either way ... you pay. The Sheikh knew that there is a "planned obsolescence" regarding most manufactured items. That concept, planned obsolescence, started back in 1925 with - you guessed it - light bubs. Here's the gist of it: The Phoebus Cartel aka The Phoebus Group was a collaboration of the major light bulb manufactures (including Phillips) to limit the life of a bulb to 1,000 hours. Their argument (over exaggerated) was as the bulb grew older, the efficiency decreased and wasted electricity. The reality was it insuring sales in perpetuity. The cartel broke up with the beginning of WWII, but idea lived on. And still continues today. For example; back in the 50's to the late 70's TV repair shops were numerous. The parts, the most expensive cost of the repair, were made by the TV manufacturer. As they became cheaper to make, the cost to repair was equal or more than the cost to replace. In order to maintain sales, a television's useful lifetime was curbed to several years. That's where the term, "The Disposable Society" comes in. We no longer fix, we toss and purchased a new one.

  61. hitherewhy

    hitherewhy

    2 dagen geleden

    cool

  62. CJWarlock

    CJWarlock

    2 dagen geleden

    Can you test these Dubai lamps if and how they handle a high frequency spike (occuring due to imprefections of switch conctacts)? Most of the mains-powered LED lamps wold burn one of the chips in series (acting as a fuse). ;)

  63. John Cundiss

    John Cundiss

    2 dagen geleden

    It was originally the light bulb companies that invented consumerism. The light bulbs were lasting to long and they were losing money, they thinned up the filament so they burn out and you have to buy another. This philosophy trickled down to all so we now have what we got. A nice flash in the pan for looks, many features, only lasts for as long as an ever so short warranty.

  64. CJWarlock

    CJWarlock

    2 dagen geleden

    Intriguing. I've built my own LED lamps and tested them 24/7 for several years @ 70-95% rated current. The LED's are still good. Hence I wondered a lot: why these producers can't make decent LED lamps in professional factories? Why they make them "ready for the trashcan"? ;) I had lightbulbs that lasted longer than these LED lamps. ;) One LED in these acts as a fuse and breaks the circuit. ;) Mostly when there's a high frequency spike due to swich contacts imprefections.

  65. Mutant Ryeff

    Mutant Ryeff

    2 dagen geleden

    Imagine if we actually had "free capitalism" instead of "state capitalism"

    • Jack Wiegmann

      Jack Wiegmann

      Dag geleden

      I think you're getting the wrong idea from this video. In this case, the state knew best.

    • Erbmon

      Erbmon

      Dag geleden

      The lightbulb industry literaly invented obsolescence decades before the first state regulations. This is not the hill you want to die on.

  66. Anthony Lehner

    Anthony Lehner

    2 dagen geleden

    These are at my Wal-Mart right now..

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      Not these ones. Just the hot running 1W per filament ones that put out half the light.

  67. Cyn Eater

    Cyn Eater

    2 dagen geleden

    cold white for the win ! :P

  68. Shamus Collins

    Shamus Collins

    2 dagen geleden

    American/Canadian here: what's the closest approximation of this I could cobble together without spending hours soldering?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      Video about that coming very soon. (Already released on Patreon).

  69. rubber communist

    rubber communist

    2 dagen geleden

    1924 Phoebus Cartel created the now standard term, planned obsolescence, also called built-in obsolescence or premature obsolescence . More variations and similar terms, perceived obsolescence , contrived durability, and systemic obsolescence . Apple likes, "prevention of repairs".. Pentalobe this 🖕 Steve Jobs But how can I be a hater 😑 in a capitalist world. I'm a machinist working in manufacturing. I wouldn't have a job if they made stuff to last longer. It sucks but so do red heads 👩‍🦰 I married one. Screw love, she could suck a 🍉 through a garden hose. 😳🤪🥴 12 Years later, I'm lucky if she just blows it a kiss on my birthday😠 ⬇️ 👄 🐓 🤯 🚫

  70. Cole Russo

    Cole Russo

    2 dagen geleden

    you have one of the most relaxing voices istg you could read the phone book

  71. Bob H

    Bob H

    2 dagen geleden

    This is an amazing linear circuit! It doesn't use a switching circuit, so there's no RFI, and it is relatively well filtered so there's no AC mains flicker. Great teardown!

  72. luca

    luca

    2 dagen geleden

    Hello, I want to buy them. Where can I buy?. You can get them, thanks

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      Dubai.

  73. Loz M

    Loz M

    3 dagen geleden

    NERD!!!!

  74. eXViLs - 8B008B

    eXViLs - 8B008B

    3 dagen geleden

    you can buy them in Slovakia, tho not made by philips

  75. Minarchist 412

    Minarchist 412

    3 dagen geleden

    Excellent

  76. TheElly750

    TheElly750

    3 dagen geleden

    I dont know why I clicked on this video but NLcameras knew i would. And i have no regrets

  77. Genghis Khan

    Genghis Khan

    3 dagen geleden

    Pff we have them in the caribbean

    • Genghis Khan

      Genghis Khan

      2 dagen geleden

      @bigclivedotcom Sir, yes we do. Exact box everything. Unlike usa, uk etc we in caribbean are not bound by your laws and can import anything we wish. Sold by what we call here indians but they are actually from pakistan etc. I personally have 2x the 3 watt bulbs in my plant cloning camber

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      Not these ones. You have the 1W per filament ones.

  78. Geri Qyqe

    Geri Qyqe

    3 dagen geleden

    thanks , be care from criticism of merchant transporter org seller youtube is dangerous location gps local internet ect.., by the way that electronic circit looks me radio encephalograme gps or better timer expire 4month lamp ....

  79. Nicolas Buschmann

    Nicolas Buschmann

    3 dagen geleden

    There was a bulb built from Osram in Germamy about 60 years ago with a tiny little Trick and IT was undestoyable . End of story: big companies bought the rights and IT was WAS NEVER SEEN AGAIN!

  80. 司马坑

    司马坑

    3 dagen geleden

    These filaments in the lamp are typically made in China, You can buy one for 0.8 RMB (around 0.12 USD).

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      The difficulty is finding a source of good ones.

  81. neuvocastezero 1

    neuvocastezero 1

    3 dagen geleden

    Dubai, where they let you buy ultra-efficient lamps, and then air condition the beaches.

  82. Makarand Pandey

    Makarand Pandey

    3 dagen geleden

    We get these in India

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      You get the 1W per filament version.

  83. Keevan Sixx

    Keevan Sixx

    3 dagen geleden

    basically, these lamps fall under two categories: Exclusivity and Planned Obsolescence. The former, is due to contracts with the Sheikh of Dubai, and in Philips best financial interests to do so. the Latter, Is because to make a truly efficient bulb with an exceptionally long life is counterproductive to the concept of planned obsolescence. Why make an extremely efficient bulb with exceptionally long life, when you can sell a cheaply made model...at a huge markup...with a 70% fail rate... forcing the consumer to actually buy more product as the bulbs frequently fail. It's a beautiful product...i just wish they were available globally.

  84. Corey Matson

    Corey Matson

    3 dagen geleden

    Yes I do agree this explanation of circuitry is very clear and understandable.thank yu

  85. little tear

    little tear

    3 dagen geleden

    Okay, it´s time that dont buy anything from Philips

  86. Self Evident

    Self Evident

    3 dagen geleden

    > a two watt one and a one watt one You mean bulb?

  87. Michael Berger

    Michael Berger

    3 dagen geleden

    If you're only interested in longevity these are great, but what you should pay attention to is color spectrum and Kelvin temperature. He mentions this in passing with "cool" and "warm"... meaningless.

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      2 dagen geleden

      I thought I mentioned the 3000K, 6500K and CRI of 80.

  88. JanicekTrnecka

    JanicekTrnecka

    3 dagen geleden

    I almost yelled when I saw the circuitry... I am too much used to muntzed circuitry, this is almost like opening avionics.

  89. Qwerty Qwerty

    Qwerty Qwerty

    3 dagen geleden

    Unbelievable, how can one get one?

  90. Marc Vandenhende

    Marc Vandenhende

    3 dagen geleden

    I don't get it... These lamps are available everywhere!

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      3 dagen geleden

      Not these ones.

  91. manaquri

    manaquri

    3 dagen geleden

    couldn't you run two or four of them in series?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      3 dagen geleden

      The LED voltage is high, so two in series might not work.

  92. Systemkritiker

    Systemkritiker

    3 dagen geleden

    how much radio frequency below 7MHz does that lamp emit ?

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      3 dagen geleden

      The capacitive dropper lamps are usually very quiet for RF.

  93. chongjunxiang3002

    chongjunxiang3002

    3 dagen geleden

    Inb4 the big lamp industry is going to flag this video down and hunt down the uploader Khasoghi style.

  94. Richard Commins

    Richard Commins

    3 dagen geleden

    There were many things that you did not talk about here. Why the need for the parallel components is a big one. Remember that capacitors have ESR (effective series resistance) and when paralleled like they are in this design produces a lower ESR. Also you didn't mention surge currents through the components. Why the need for the two parallel zener diodes is another big question. Is it for surge current protection or LED warm up surge? What about line voltage spikes and over-voltage? It would be very bad if a lighting strike nearby blew all your light bulbs. Yes, you talked about the extra heat in the US bulbs (a real life time killer) but a bulb that cannot dim is a real problem too. The main problem I am having with LED bulbs now is using electronic dimmers switches like the X10. My LED bulbs do not completely turn off now. That is a big problem for me.

    • Richard Commins

      Richard Commins

      3 dagen geleden

      @bigclivedotcom You might be right about that but there is nothing I can do to change the X10 switch. The switch gets its power to function to receive signals from the line and draws about 5 ma of current. This is enough to turn on the LED bulbs to a brightness that is unacceptable to me. If more than one bulb is in parallel (like a chandelier), I just put one incandescent in the fixture and the LEDs go off. The incandescent bulb is a low resistance when cold and short circuits the 5ma around the LEDs and they go off. When the switch is on, the incandescent bulb is then on and a much higher resistance and the LEDs turn on normally.

    • bigclivedotcom

      bigclivedotcom

      3 dagen geleden

      The snubber networks in your dimmers may be passing enough current to keep the lamps glowing when off.

  95. Brent Testerman

    Brent Testerman

    3 dagen geleden

    I need that CALCULATOR!

  96. luca

    luca

    3 dagen geleden

    It is incredible that in Europe you cannot buy these bulbs, the ones from philips are ......, For not selling them and contributing to a cleaner world.

  97. Adolf Hitler

    Adolf Hitler

    3 dagen geleden

    Inefficiency and built-in obsolescence are compulsory profit generating factors in the zionist run western world.

  98. WaxPaper

    WaxPaper

    4 dagen geleden

    It makes me wonder how much cool technology isn't developed and brought to the market, because it isn't profitable. Not in the sense that you couldn't sell it at all, but that it either destroy existing revenue models or substantially limit them. What else are they keeping from us?

  99. Digital Nomad on FIRE Podcast

    Digital Nomad on FIRE Podcast

    4 dagen geleden

    Why don't they just sell these everywhere and charge more?

  100. TWeaK819

    TWeaK819

    4 dagen geleden

    Damn, I'm a bit disappointed. I misread the title, was expecting some bulbs to go pop.

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